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Sat, Nov. 18th, 2006, 03:06 pm
transformergeek: (no subject)

It just occurred to me...

Why don't we see more outspokenly anti-Semitic homophobes? If one's reason for hating gays is that homosexuality goes against God's will and all gays go to hell, isn't the same true of Jewish people? Jesus said "No one comes to the Father but through me" (John 14:6). Apparently, only those who accept Jesus can gain entry to heaven. I don't claim to know a whole lot about the Jewish faith, but I'm pretty certain there isn't a whole lot of Jesus involved.

So if one's logic for being anti-gay (which to me makes about as much sense as being anti-menopausal) is that it is against God's will and gays are going to hell, why not hate the Jews too? It seems a bit hypocritical to be homophobic and not anti-Semitic.

Wed, Jul. 12th, 2006, 01:04 am
tigermaggot: The "Counter-Trilemma"

Christians have their "Trilemma," which they seem to think absolutely proves the False Prophet was indeed the son of their god.  It goes as follows:

Jesus preached many things while he was alive, among them being that he was the son of god.  Either he was telling the truth or he wasn't.  If he wasn't telling the truth, he was either insane or lying.  This leaves three possibilities:
  1. He was not telling the truth because he was delusional
  2. He was not telling the truth because he was a liar.
  3. He was telling the truth, and is therefore the son of god.
Their answers are as follows:
  1. The idea of Jesus being insane is icky, so therefore he wasn't delusional.
  2. The idea of Jesus lying is icky, so therefore he wasn't a liar.
  3. Therefore he was the son of god. 
The logical holes in this are simply hilarious (not the least of which is their whole case is based on what they'd like to believe rather than anything even resembling an examination of the evidence), and they omit the most likely possibility -- that he never even existed in the first place.  This is about as close to rational and logical as christians get. 

But, I digress. 

My Counter-Trilemma is as follows:

(Insert disaster here*) happened, and is a verifiable fact.  The bible is chock full of examples of this god intervening in earthly affairs, often quite spectacularly.  Why didn't god keep (disaster) from happening?  There are three possibilities:
  1. God couldn't stop it, because he's too weak.
  2. God chose not to stop it, for whatever reason.  This includes "it was all part of his plan" or "god works in mysterious ways," and similar cop-out answers.
  3. God didn't stop it because he doesn't exist.
This leads us to the following conclusions:
  1. This god is a weakling, (and in certain cases was handily beaten by some other deity) and therefore not fit for worship.
  2. This god is depraved (the only word I can think of for refusing to save thousands or millions of lives, especially when they're his loyal followers), and therefore not fit for worship.
  3. Something that doesn't exist is not fit for worship. 
This covers all the angles (either he exists or he doesn't, and if he exists he either couldn't or wouldn't stop it), and each possibility leads to a god that is simply unworthy of worship.

*: Fun ones are 9/11 and the Holocaust because they pit the judeo-christian god directly against himself, Satan or allah, making it even MORE amusing, but any big diaster will do. 

Tue, Mar. 7th, 2006, 02:51 pm
phantomxbreeze: (no subject)

Democrat for Senate: Kill practicing 'gays' He's a trucker (of course) from Ohio that claims we're a godless country and it is the government's duty to instill morality and advocate biblical values.

Well well well. I don't think anything can really be said about this guy.
Let's paraphrase, shall we.
-Let's make homosexuality a capital crime (punishable by the death penalty)
-Instill religious conversion (to christianity of course) as part of the war on terror
-Demand prayer in public schools
-Deprive people that "believe in" evolution of their basic rights... (then claims evolution goes against the declaration of independance)

Need I go on or does the level of lunacy and stupidity speak for itself. Way to go, christianity, beating your own record of insane ignorance every day!

I wonder sometimes if christianity is, perhaps, the biggest practical joke of all time and they're all sitting somewhere laughing, and on their supposed judgement day they've been blathering on about for so long, they're all going to jump out of the bushes and yell "GOTCHA!".
At least I really sincerely hope so, because otherwise there is really no excuse for such blind stupidity.

Wed, Mar. 1st, 2006, 05:36 pm
phantomxbreeze: (no subject)

(cross-posted to a few forums)

New Florida town looks to ban abortions, pornography and contraceptives

By Brian Skoloff
10:46 a.m. March 1, 2006

NAPLES, Fla.- If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or birth control.
The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at least $250 million and calls it "God's will."
Civil libertarians say the plan is unconstitutional and are threatening to sue.

The town of Ave Maria is being constructed around Ave Maria University, the first Catholic university to be built in the United States in about 40 years. Both are set to open next year about 25 miles east of Naples in southwestern Florida.
The town and the university, developed in partnership with the Barron Collier Co., an agricultural and real estate business, will be set on 5,000 acres with a European-inspired town center, a massive church and what planners call the largest crucifix in the nation, at nearly 65 feet tall. Monaghan envisions 11,000 homes and 20,000 residents.
During a speech last year at a Catholic men's gathering in Boston, Monaghan said that in his community, stores will not sell pornographic magazines, pharmacies will not carry condoms or birth control pills, and cable television will have no X-rated channels.
Homebuyers in Ave Maria will own their property outright. But Monaghan and Barron Collier will control all commercial real estate in the town, meaning they could insert provisions in leases to restrict the sale of certain items.
"I believe all of history is just one big battle between good and evil. I don't want to be on the sidelines," Monaghan, who sold Domino's Pizza in 1998 to devote himself to doing good works, said in a recent Newsweek interview.

Robert Falls, a spokesman for the project, said Tuesday that attorneys are still reviewing the legal issues and that Monaghan had no comment in the meantime.
"If they attempt to do what he apparently wants to do, the people of Naples and Collier County, Florida, are in for a whole series of legal and constitutional problems and a lot of litigation indefinitely into the future," warned Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida.
Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist said it will be up to the courts to decide the legalities of the plan. "The community has the right to provide a wholesome environment," he said. "If someone disagrees, they have the right to go to court and present facts before a judge."

Gov. Jeb Bush, at the site's groundbreaking earlier this month, lauded the development as a new kind of town where faith and freedom will merge to create a community of like-minded citizens. Bush, a convert to Catholicism, did not speak specifically to the proposed restrictions.
"While the governor does not personally believe in abortion or pornography, the town, and any restrictions they may place on businesses choosing to locate there, must comply with the laws and constitution of the state and federal governments," Russell Schweiss, a spokesman for the governor, said Tuesday.

Frances Kissling, president of the liberal Washington-based Catholics for a Free Choice, likened Monaghan's concept to Islamic fundamentalism.
"This is un-American," Kissling said. "I don't think in a democratic society you can have a legally organized township that will seek to have any kind of public service whatsoever and try to restrict the constitutional rights of citizens."


Well well.
Two reactions I have really.Reactions under cutCollapse )

So you heard /*my*/ reaction, now I'm curious about yours.

Tue, Feb. 21st, 2006, 07:15 pm
tigermaggot: So I finally got around to watching The Passion of the Christ today...

What an unbelievably crappy movie. That people were lining up to see this piece of shit is a testament to the gullibility, stupidity, and/or sadism of christians.

First off, I hate subtitles. Can't stand them. I like to do other things while I watch a movie, and subtitles mean I can't do that. Ten out of ten for style in using a bunch of authentic languages, but minus a couple of hundred for home viewing.

People complained about the "excessive" violence of Total Recall when it came out. I remember people whining about how there's supposedly an act of violence every 46 seconds or something. Total Recall can't hold a candle to this thing. Every five or ten minutes, you get another graphically-rendered beating, swordfight, or scourging. Braveheart had less gore than this movie.

The famous scourging scene lasted nine minutes. That's nine solid minutes of a couple guys beating him with sticks, then scourges (a cat-o-nine-tails with metal tips). All of it very graphically done. By the time it was over, the guy looked like he'd been dragged behind a car.

Anyone who thought this movie was acceptable viewing loses all right to bitch about violence in movies or video games.

Sat, Dec. 31st, 2005, 01:14 am
tigermaggot: The wisdom of "christian identity" white supremacists

So I'm reading a thread on a religious discussion board, and some Nazi (a literal Nazi -- he thinks the world needs a "christian identity" (CI for short) "white racial state) starts shrieking about how all non-christians are jews, should be burned at the stake, etc. He also claims "there is only one true white religion, and that religion is christianity," followed by more threats to kill anyone who isn't a christian.

1. He obviously doesn't like jews very much. Seems to be pretty much the foundation of his whole political belief structure.
2. He repreatedly identifies himself as a christian.
3. Even if you believe jesus was real and not fictional (the evidence says fictional), he was a jew. Called himself their king, as I recall.
4. All the major players in the NT were themselves jews.
5. Between points 3 and 4, it is clear christianity is itself an offshoot of judaism, manufactured by and for jews.
6. Christianity was dreamed up about 2,000 years ago, and its present form only dates to about 600AD, when the bible was finalized by the committee. This makes it only 1400 years old in anything even resembling its present form.
7. White people have been around for something like 15,000 years.

So here you have someone who hates jews loudly proclaiming a religion by jews, for jews is the true faith, and all who don't belong are jew who should be burned at the stake. Furthermore, this 1,400 year old religion is somehow integral to a bunch of people who have existed ten times as long.

And these CI guys think they're smarter than everyone else...

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